Before the Huskies took on the Oregon Ducks at Autzen Stadium on Saturday in Eugene, Washington Athletic Director Scott Woodward appeared on the University of Washington football pregame radio show.
While speaking to hosts Dave “Softy” Mahler and Hugh Millen - and a statewide radio audience via KJR-AM in Seattle - Woodward called Oregon an “embarrassment” after Mahler asked him about the school’s athletic facilities and football success.
Along with the audio of his remarks, I’ve transcribed of some of Woodward’s comments below:
Mahler to Woodward: “What do you make of this place? When you come down here, you see the new baseball field, you see the brand new turf, you see the atmosphere. And don’t know if motivation is the word but obviously this is kind of where Washington wants to be, ranked #1 in the country and have all eyes on them.”
Woodward: “Sure, it’s not really where we want to be Softy (Mahler’s nickname), because it’s an embarrassment what their academic institution is, and what’s happened to them as far as their state funding has gone. In my mind it’s a wonderful athletic facility but they’ve watched it at the expense of the university go really down.
“The athletic facility is impressive. The fans at Oregon should get down on their hands and knees at night to Phil Knight and pray to him because this is an incredible facility he’s built.“
Mahler: “Talk more about what you were just mentioning, about academics, is that backed up by some stats that just came out? Or numbers? Tell me about that.”
Woodward: “Sure, any of the rankings you look at, you watch how far they’ve (Oregon) dropped because of their state funding. And it’s a message for us too. Our state needs to get its act together because we can’t continue to progress without investment in our institution. But we’re doing extremely well and we’re very proud of that fact.
“We’re a part of the whole University of Washington. That’s who we are.”
Hugh Millen: “It there one thing here (Oregon) where you say, ‘they really did it well, let’s do it at Washington’?”
Woodward: “Not necessarily Hugh, it’s different. We’re a much bigger venue. They’ve done a lot of things here nicely and everything they’ve done is first class so you take that lesson from them. But we’ll do it the Washington way. We’ll do it better and differently.”
The embarrassment Saturday wasn’t the Univ. of Oregon, but Woodward himself with the lack of class he exhibited in insulting his hosts. Any legitimate points Woodward may have had about the so-called misguided priorities in Eugene were buried by his arrogant, patronizing and defensive tone.
Woodward’s remarks remind me of the McCourts when they first bought the Dodgers. Frank and Jamie went out of their way to ignore the methods of the O’Malleys - who were most responsible for the prestigious organization that the McCourts couldn’t wait to get their hands on.
But instead of learning, or even properly appreciating the O’Malleys for what they achieved, the McCourts were dead set on distancing themselves from everything the franchise had ever done successfully.
Just as Woodward put it Saturday, the McCourts decided from jump that they would do things “better and different” than those who came before them. (The divorce has had very little to do with the true downfall of the organization.)
Yes, Washington is in a much different spot than the Dodgers. And Woodward did get one thing right as part of his radio remarks - U-Dub is a great school.
A great school, I might add, that deserved better than Woodward’s indefensible display Saturday.
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2:42 am on November 8th, 2010
can we get mr. woodward’s contact information?
3:46 am on November 8th, 2010
He is just jelous. UO is a great school and they have plenty of funding. He is just trying to milk the taxpayers into a guilt trip since they rejected all those taxes. UW is a good school too but that line of thinking will not make you any friends.
6:00 am on November 8th, 2010
Funny, Oregon has a ton of new state of the art academic buildings designed by their first rate architecture program. They are amazing. Washington has a bunch of old buildings. One school is moving forward and the other backward. Washington is only rated high because it is in a major city and it has a larger endowment, both of which are major parts of the ratings by U.S news and world reports. Unfortunately they don’t rate schools by facilities, teaching, or the students future success.
6:46 am on November 8th, 2010
Yeah, well, at least Hec Ed’s floor doesn’t look retarded.
7:48 am on November 8th, 2010
Wow, it really sounds as if Woodward has an ax to grind with someone…Did he apply for Oregon’s recently open AD position and not get it? How can anyone in their right mind is his position publicly make comments like this? I hope someone higher up holds him responsible for his comments. Asked if he had facts and statistics to back up his statements, he replied yes but failed to provide them. What a disgraceful showing for the UDub. I have always thought and was taught they have a very classy program there, boy did Woodward shoot that theory out of the water. If he has a conscience at all, he should be ashamed of his statements.
8:56 am on November 8th, 2010
Oregon is just a school for California rejects who didn’t get in to Berkeley or UCLA. It’s on par with Arizona and Arizona St. Notice Phil gave STANFORD all the money to build their business school because he didn’t want anything to do with academics at Oregon.
8:57 am on November 8th, 2010
This is why the Ducks love to hate the Huskys! They are the most pompus, classless, arrogant little bast….. They are wrong about Oregon academics and athletics and jealousy is what is driving his comments.
9:33 am on November 8th, 2010
So Scott….didja git a chance to see the new roundball house?
Snarky comments, wait until next year, we won’t let up on the dogs at all in yer house….prepare fer a beatin’!
9:34 am on November 8th, 2010
@ Rick Diamond
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about…see KNIGHT library, KNIGHT law library, etc. Knight has given more to UO athletics than Stanford. He donates to both our sports and academic programs, nice try.
Why is the UW AD even talking about academic rankings - isn’t his job athletics? Sounds like somebody who is lashing out because they may be getting the axe.
9:56 am on November 8th, 2010
The only thing he gets right is that the state of Oregon really has jacked its education funding to K-12 and the universities over the years. Contrary to Woodward’s point, Phil Knight, among others, have helped Oregon a great deal with donations to the academic side, but his patronizing comments should remind the state that it’s time to cure the massive budget shortfall and get back to funding all the schools.
10:00 am on November 8th, 2010
Sounds like a guy who can’t keep up with the Joneses i.e. Oregon. It’s a poor attempt at acknowledging and pivoting and this time it made him and UW look small and petty. By the way, Phil Knight never forgets a slight - to him or his beloved Ducks.
10:06 am on November 8th, 2010
This is the pot calling the kettle black. Woodward left LSU in academic shambles when he took the AD job in Seattle. He then had the gaul to ask the State of Washington tax payers to pay for a $300+ million loan to renovate old, decrepit Husky Stadium instead of attempting to solicit private funds to pay for it… like Oregon did.
10:08 am on November 8th, 2010
Impressive comments from AD Woodward. This is the representative that a reputable institution sends out on its behalf?
Regardless of any kernels of truth that may be hiding amongst his inflammatory speech, what did Woodward think he had to gain by saying it?
He should take some lessons from the Oregon Ducks mascot when it comes to out-reach and relations with the “enemy.”
10:11 am on November 8th, 2010
Only a douche who had has his football team’s ass kicked 7 years in a row would want to talk about academics…I mean, what else can he talk about, right?
10:19 am on November 8th, 2010
sad little fella… my gawd Scott, could you please sound any more ridiculous… all he speaks to is “state funding” with zero analytical data to support is brazen statements about thr academia falling off. 95% of the states have taken HUGE hits in tax revenue thus have less funding for it’s state Universities due to the climate we are in and including the State of Oregon as a whole. The state of Washington is in a similar climate but with a sales tax can control that envirinment in some ways a bit better. And jeezus man, for an AD to speak to the scholastic piece of the buzzle really sings of even more jealousy and the hypocrisy he lives in. Tell ya what Woodward, graduate kids, get your programs competitive and not the laughing stock of the conference and try to generate a little revenue with those that can, and make better decisions on contract extensions. Then maybe, just maybe, we’ll give you the microphone back.
10:24 am on November 8th, 2010
The Wash. AD is following my playbook, same with the Mccourts - look where it got me and the country this year!
10:44 am on November 8th, 2010
fire this woodward guy …He seems like an dumb ass .Get rid of him before he embarrasses the university of Wahington again… Besides the dude looks like a freaking NERD anyway
10:57 am on November 8th, 2010
Rick Diamond,
Phil Knight has POURED money in not ONLY athletics but in ACADEMICS as well. Learn the facts.
10:58 am on November 8th, 2010
Maybe he should focus on why his paying a third rate head football coach first rate dollars. Paying Sark and staff what he does now there is a big time embarrassement.
11:02 am on November 8th, 2010
Woodward is seriously an idiot. I guess the dude has never set foot on campus and see many of the new state of the art academic building and dormitories build over the last 10-20 years either. also, Oregon’s athletic department is NOT linked to state funding. it’s totally self sufficient. the only people who try to make that connection are ignorant academic-types who hate sports and believe capitalism should be abolished. they think all money is the same, whether it’s public or private. once again, Husky arrogance rear it’s ugly head.
11:07 am on November 8th, 2010
Sounds like we have an individual scorned and jealuos of the success of the duanted Oregon Ducks in a hole. My research shows that out of 20 things that our graded for Universities that Oregon out graded UW in 12 of them. The funny thing is that Woodward was stressing the academic part of this and from my research UW graded a B and UofO graded a B- which in my mind is not that different. So my conclusion is that Scotty got turned away by the University of Oregon because we saw through his BS and is trying to make himself feel better for his failure at UW.
11:20 am on November 8th, 2010
I guess the millions that uncle Phill has given the UO for a new libary 10 mill new law school,makes it a second rate school,NOT SO FAST JACKASS. WOODWARD YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING BFOR THAT FALLING DOWN DUMP YOU PLAY IN> 7 YEARS THE VDUCKS HAVE OWNED THE PUPLE DAWGS DEAL WITH IT!!!
11:38 am on November 8th, 2010
My impressions are about the same as Chris’: Geezuz, UW lets THIS guy talk in front of a microphone? Someone needs to introduce him to the concept of coherent thought. It’s not like Oregon’s athletic programs have been developed at the expense of the academic programs. Maybe that’s how it’s done at LSU and UW, but Oregon relies almost exclusively on private donations (like Phil Knight’s) to fund athletics. If he wants to beg for more public funding for his athletic programs, he’d have to be an idiot to use Oregon as an example.
11:58 am on November 8th, 2010
I know we suck in football this season, and have since 2001, but guys like this are EXACTLY why I’ve been a WAZZU fan all my life.
12:05 pm on November 8th, 2010
Not only is our athletic department funded by private donations, it is also funded by the millions of revenue paid to Oregon because they are on national television multiple times this season alone and networks pay to have the high ratings our kind of football provides. Oh, and that other revenue source, bowl games. Hello? How many bowl games have the Huskies been invited to this century? Does the BCS committee know where Seattle is? Uh err … no.
12:13 pm on November 8th, 2010
Brooks - You should do a compare-and-contrast piece on the two major AD’s in Washington state: Woodward and Bill Moos. The Apple Cup will be moving to Pullman for a long, long time.
12:13 pm on November 8th, 2010
Ha ha. Wazzu fans discovered this years ago. The U-DUB’s arrogance is so pervasive and so sick that now they are simply losing their minds over their failures and lashing out in the only way they know how—more arrogance. Two separate, major eras of corruption in the last 25 years with their sports (of course the UW excused it all) and they are now reaping what they sow. Go Oregon, from a WSU fan. Run the streak into the twenties. The ave. outside of campus is overrun with drug dealers and homeless, the football team sucks and the whole atmosphere is so paralyzed by arrogance that the U is about the worst place a kid can go. Truth comes out and Woodward is just a representative of the typical husky—way out of touch.
12:21 pm on November 8th, 2010
Well Washington is a superior institution to Oregon but, not even close to in the way that Woodface tries to talk about it… forget his arrogance, pomposity, and overall ass facery. Oregon is ranked top ten nationally in Chemistry, economics, English, psychology, molecular biology, biochemistry, physics, neuroscience, sustainable design, special education and sports marketing… and is only 111th to US 41st in national rankings…
The point is that this joker really needs to be ashamed of himself for acting like such a child in public. Typical, Woodward is an embarrassment to the University of Washington, and needs to be let go… yesterday.
12:22 pm on November 8th, 2010
GIVE THE GUY A BREAK!! It sounds to me like he is speaking about the way our state funds our educational programs and NOT about what Oregon is doing or not doing. Read it again with that in mind and tell me I’m wrong. BTW, I am a huge Duck fan not looking for more dirt on the Dogs because we don’t need it, we did the talking on Saturday.
12:32 pm on November 8th, 2010
“We will do it the Washington way.” lol What does that even mean? Get our cans handed to us each year and then target other schools? This guy must be on drugs. He starts each sentence with, “sure they have done a great job (UO). Then ends with… but they suck and do it the wrong way.” I’m proud to be a Duck Alum.
I couldn’t imagine the Ducks AD, or anyone of status, running his mouth about a school and not providing any facts.
This is jealousy at its finest.
Also, RICK DIAMOND IS IGNORANT. Thank you to the people who straightened him out.
12:33 pm on November 8th, 2010
What a tool, Lambrite all over again
12:40 pm on November 8th, 2010
It looks like the Barbara Hedges, Rick Neuheisel tradition of having menstrual influence in the UW athletic department continues.
12:41 pm on November 8th, 2010
No, he was talking to the University. “at the expense of the university really going down”
“Its an embarrassment what their academic institution is”
12:49 pm on November 8th, 2010
Unfortunately he’s right. A football program is NOT a university. It’s like there’s 2 separate entities: the football (athletic) program and the academic. The state of Oregon has been terrible in its support of education over the last few decades, not only K-12 but in higher ed as well. It seems as some of you can’t get over your fuskie hate to see the truth in his words. We are in many ways the “Appalachia of the West”.
12:50 pm on November 8th, 2010
Acting President of UW is Dr. Phyllis Wise.
pmwise@uw.edu
12:54 pm on November 8th, 2010
whitebuff - How has Phil Knight’s athletic donations impacted the state funding of Oregon’s academics? I agree, state funding of academics is insufficient (nationwide, really), but Woodward’s point is that somehow the athletic facilities are to blame.
1:03 pm on November 8th, 2010
If Phil Knight liked Oregon so much why did he go to Stanford? Because he knew that the degree there was worthless. Only reason he keeps giving Oregon money is because he known the whole state is forced to suck on his teet in order to stay afloat.
1:14 pm on November 8th, 2010
Coming from an Oregon alum and PR professional–humbler is better. He is setting a poor example as a leader on behalf of his institution and should be embarrassed. Disappointing. Oh, and by the way, my husband and I are both Oregon grads and live in the Seattle area….the professionals that hired us don’t seem to have an issue with our academic training.
1:28 pm on November 8th, 2010
For the record, Phil Knight received his bachelors degree at Oregon but received his MBA at Stanford. While he has made some donations to Stanford, he has made an overwhelming amount of his donations to both Oregon athetics and academics.
1:32 pm on November 8th, 2010
AS A PRACTICING ARCHITECT WHO HAS VISITED THE UW AND U OF O FACILITIES I OBVIOUSLY SEE THE BIAS OF WOODWARD’S COMMENTS. LET IT BE SAID THE UW PROGRAM HAS BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE LEVELED, AND THE STADIUM NEEDS A 100 MILLION DOLLAR RENOVATION JUST TO MAINTAIN IT’S PRESENT FACADE!
BUILDINGS NEED TO BE SEISMICALLY UPGRADED AND THE CAMPUS IS A JOKE NEXT TO ALL THE GREAT NEW CAMPUS BUILDINGS ERECTED IN THE LAST TEN YEARS AT U OF O. IS WOODWARD DEAF, DUMB, BLIND, AND BIPOLAR, AND MUST OF HAD A DAWGSH1T BRAIN TRANSPLANT TO MAKE SUCH A MINDLESS ANALYSIS!
1:37 pm on November 8th, 2010
Rick Diamond because no person in their right mind would turn down the opportunity to go to Stanford Grad school. I would bet that a Washington Alum would make the same decision. Also, he keeps giving money, because his company was essentially founded and made a success thanks to athletes from Oregon.
1:39 pm on November 8th, 2010
As a famous Huskie coach once said: “SCOREBOARD, BABY!!!”
1:47 pm on November 8th, 2010
“While he has made some donations to Stanford, he has made an overwhelming amount of his donations to both Oregon athetics and academics.”
He donated 105 million to Stanford! I think that’s more than “some”.
The bottom line is Washington’s AD is complete tool in finest Husky fashion. He’s wrong about Oregon’s academics, and falsely tries to link academic support to athletic support.
This guy should be more concerned with his own House, which has become a near laughingstock in everything but Basketball. Husky stadium needs 300 million in renovations! It’s more than the program that’s crumbling.
1:51 pm on November 8th, 2010
I guess if you can’t beat ‘em on the field, then resort to name calling. Is this Woodward’s version of Husky excellence? From the play of the team, to the athletic director’s comments, there was nothing excellent about their performance. Perhaps, Mr. Woodward, as the UW ATHLETIC director, Husky fans may appreciate you focusing your attention on athletics as well.
2:05 pm on November 8th, 2010
Live in the Portland-Metro area and the UDub AD coulda made his point in a less arrogant manner but many of the Duck fans posting on here are as delusional as the UDub AD if you think that the state of Oregon hasn’t made severe cuts to K-12 and university level funding over the past 10 years.
I think that’s the point the UDub jackass was trying to make.
Thank God for the U of O and OSU for that matter that Uncle Phil has been very generous to the academic side of things because if either school were dependent upon the state, both would be very low ranked nationally.
2:14 pm on November 8th, 2010
@OscarP17
Schools at all levels across the Nation have been affected by lack of funding. Oregon is hardly unique here.
But what the AD says is “In my mind it’s a wonderful athletic facility but they’ve watched it at the expense of the university go really down. ”
Not only is this statement a grammatical train wreck (which makes his claims of academic superiority hilarious), he says straight up that academics have suffered at the hands of athletics, which is completely false, as Oregon’s athletics are entirely self-sufficient.
2:20 pm on November 8th, 2010
Washington has an outstanding medical school (where the majority of their funding goes to), but the undergraduate portion of the university is nothing special. Why is the athletic director partaking in academic trash talking? Oregon is a pretty good school and having a private donor fund their athletic department definitely doesn’t take away from the academic mission of the university.
Just took a look at Woodward’s bio…he graduated from LSU! A guy from LSU is trashing Oregon? LSU makes ASU look like Harvard.
2:28 pm on November 8th, 2010
A lot of ruffled feathers — and poor logic and spelling. Hello Ducks (and Cougs behind them, of course).
Does Scott Woodward embody class and brilliance. Of course not. The man, who is known by Husky fans as “Bayou Scott,” is an SEC football man and lefty lobbyist hack (mentored in part by James Carville) that gave himself the UW AD job (Woodward was in charge of the search effort). He is unrefined, full of piss and Louisiana loony, yet is pedantic about academia’s sacred cows such as ever increasing public funding and in athletics, NCAA revenue sharing, etc.
Not a show of class, sure. But what he said, although not directly relevant to the game, is true. Oregon is not a stellar or even above average institution, as the rankings regularly exhibit.
Class? What of all the sports talk babble about LaMichael James homesick, etc., and no mention he tried to choke his girlfriend out, and would have been kicked off the team in a decent program. Nor that Belloti, as the former AD of a public university, took millions in payout from the citizens of Oregon…No? Oh that’s right, it came from Uncle Phil and the “handshake agreement.” Thus the complaint (lawsuit?), etc.
Give us a break. The PAC 10 knows that Oregon has very little class, see, e.g.,: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/specials/fansurvey/2009/pac10.html
Now others are figuring it out. Just pointing that out doesn’t make the teller guilty of the same.
2:39 pm on November 8th, 2010
What a mental midget. Udub deserves better than this educated derelict, I am embarrassed for UW to have this arrogant talking head on staff at such a fine institution. He must be late for his afternoon nap at mommy’s house. Back in the 70’s and early 80’s when UofO started our buildout to face the future, we did not point green fingers of jealousy at others institutions, we just did what we had to do. Academically speaking, both universities excell in there own right, both are top shelf universities, however it appears that Udub needs to clean out someones office and get an AD that is not an embarrassment to the Huskies. You deserve better UW!!!
2:43 pm on November 8th, 2010
You want to talk about embarrassing? How about the classless action of one of your football coaches making a crying motion to the fans a Autzen when Costa went down w/ a major knee injury? Not enough bad things can happen to the UW program.
2:49 pm on November 8th, 2010
Woodward’s comments are a tad harsh, but also taken out of context….but still ….Phil Knight is the best owner in college athletics.
2:58 pm on November 8th, 2010
I would agree that the State of Oregon has dropped the ball with funding to all State Education (K-12, Community Colleges, and the 7 State Universities), but that’s not a result of the Athletic Department.
In the 90s a small group lead by a man named Bill Sizemore pushed through several ballot measures that led to deep-cuts in the State’s Budget (think the 1990s verison of the Tea-Party). Despite this the University of Oregon has continued to succeed academically (and finds creative ways to make up for the lack of State funding)
Phil and Penny Knight endow 25, yes twenty-five, professors at the University. The Knights have given UO a world class Law School facility and general Library. Other donors have paid for Lillis Business School and Warsaw Sports-Marketing program.
2:58 pm on November 8th, 2010
The evolution of a respectable title-University of Washington Athletic Director, UW AD, U WAD
U-WAD, Scott Woodward has been Peter Principled it appears.
3:03 pm on November 8th, 2010
I think he might be a little over-board, but his point about the disparity between athletic donations and the lack of funding for the UO from the state (~ 8%) is on target.
3:16 pm on November 8th, 2010
UW was a program built on illegal activity and criminal behavior. It’s well documented: Google the book “Scoreboard Baby!”.
It’s one thing for students to be rowdy and obnoxious, it’s entirely another thing for administrators, coaches, or for God’s sake the AD to be the same.
He’s also incorrect to link academic and athletic funding, as they are independent of each other. Oregon is one of 5 Universities whose athletic departments are self-sufficient.
3:41 pm on November 8th, 2010
FlyduckFly: Here’s the difference between Oregon and Washington with regard to “illegal activity” and “criminal behavior”:
Oregon: LaMichael James pleads guilty to choking out his girlfriend (”physical harassment”). He remains on the team, and is a starter.
UW: Andre Pulu pleads guilty to “second degree assault” (against another male). He is kicked off the team.
That’s the difference. UW deals with problems and gets rid of them. Oregon doesn’t, or won’t if it doesn’t have to.
4:04 pm on November 8th, 2010
John,
LaMichael James never “choked out” his girlfriend. I know you know this, but I have to say it anyways: The DA dropped the charges because they were false. Read the police report yourself.
Andrew Pulu punched a kid out then stomped on his head leaving bootmarks on his face. He could have killed him.
Potential Heisman candidate Jeremiah Masoli..dismissed from team.
Garret Embry. Dismissed.
Jamere Holland. Dismissed.
Kiko Alonzo. Suspended 1 year for DUI.
So, you’re either ignorant or simply arrogant. Perhaps both?
4:19 pm on November 8th, 2010
Looks like Woodward recently tried to clarify / apologize for / backtrack from his statements. Maybe the Seattle PR professional with the 1:14 comment could do some pro bono work for UW…they clearly need your help.
4:19 pm on November 8th, 2010
Flyduckfly, pretty sure that John both. He’s a UW fan.
Best of luck to your Ducks. Since my Cougs suck the high hard one this season (decade) I’ve been pulling for you guys.
4:50 pm on November 8th, 2010
Brooks is on his high horse again.
Woodward is completely right. Is Oregon supposed to be a university or just a marketing arm/tax write off for Nike? Phil Knight pays for every facility they have, it makes you wonder what else he might be paying for?
5:05 pm on November 8th, 2010
Woodward’s “apology” is worse than his statement. That dude just can’t keep from stepping on his dick.
Maybe he should be trying to figure out how to fix that crumbling heap he calls a stadium…
5:40 pm on November 8th, 2010
Wow, what a jerk the UW AD is. What does “…we’ll do it the Washington way. We’ll do it better and differently” mean, exactly? Is he trying to place the blame onto Washington residents for his slanderous insults to Oregon? We just watch the fur fly from our own looney bin in California! Good luck with that!
5:43 pm on November 8th, 2010
Oregon, and U of O fans and alumni. Let this be a LESSON. On how NOT to behave. UW has been and ALWAYS be full of ARROGANT whiny babies. As a WSU undergraduate and UW graduate, I PREFERRED my time at WSU than UW. Alas, my graduate degree was not offered at WSU.
The ONLY thing I HATE about U of Oregon is their uniforms! Can’t talk me out of it, UGLIEST uniforms in NCAA football!
8:14 am on November 9th, 2010
i agree glubber
two words from UDUB
sour grapes and jealousy
sounds like two kids in a sandbox??? my dads better than your dad………
wha wah wah yea lose sleep over it
knucklehead
8:35 pm on November 10th, 2010
glubber, you’re a moron (standard cougar grad). of course you prefer your time as an undergrad, because you’re a college kid. grad school is hard work. his point is legitimate–oregon’s academics are suffering from their lack of state funding. Oregon would not be anywhere near where they are without phil knight. they aren’t ranked even close to the UC schools or UW academically.
11:09 am on December 15th, 2011
kind of late on this… but comparing uw and of uo i alike apples and a sh*t sandwhich. uw has some of the best grad programs in the country and is in pretty much the best city on the west coast, ( i live in san diego.) Eugene is a land locked hick town, with arrogant classless fans, which you would expect from the hillbillies that surround the campus